Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Kaijyuu Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:05 am

I dunno. It's somewhat creepier with the eyes.

Hell that scene was terrifying.

Also, re: Spitfire not joining.

It didn't really strike me as any sort of crisis, especially when Spitfire was pointing at her watch impatiently. They probably could've gotten their water elsewhere, closer to cloudsdale where it was easier. Heck they might have a Cloudsdale Weather Team responsible for doing just that, if the local teams can't do it for whatever reason.

**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:09 am

It was more that it was explicitly mentioned that another failed attempt might result in injuries, RD decided to try again despite clearly not having enough power in the participants, and Spitfire decided essentially "Meh, I'll watch instead of doing absolutely anything else" (telling RD they'll get the water elsewhere, joining in, etc.).

Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:13 am

Kaijyuu wrote:I dunno. It's somewhat creepier with the eyes.

Hell that scene was terrifying.

That was probably a pretty good visual representation of what they feel.

Kaijyuu wrote:It didn't really strike me as any sort of crisis, especially when Spitfire was pointing at her watch impatiently. They probably could've gotten their water elsewhere, closer to cloudsdale where it was easier. Heck they might have a Cloudsdale Weather Team responsible for doing just that, if the local teams can't do it for whatever reason.

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Kaijyuu Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:24 am

Flying Dice wrote:It was more that it was explicitly mentioned that another failed attempt might result in injuries, RD decided to try again despite clearly not having enough power in the participants, and Spitfire decided essentially "Meh, I'll watch instead of doing absolutely anything else" (telling RD they'll get the water elsewhere, joining in, etc.).

Name a game where the referee hops in and helps the players with their goal.

This is, mostly, a game. It serves a useful purpose but still.

**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:54 am

Kaijyuu wrote:
Flying Dice wrote:It was more that it was explicitly mentioned that another failed attempt might result in injuries, RD decided to try again despite clearly not having enough power in the participants, and Spitfire decided essentially "Meh, I'll watch instead of doing absolutely anything else" (telling RD they'll get the water elsewhere, joining in, etc.).
Name a game where the referee hops in and helps the players with their goal.

This is, mostly, a game. It serves a useful purpose but still.

It is hardly a game. It is a job which is rotated through different regions, and which happens to have records kept for it. Factories record production levels, does that make a Ford assembly line a sports team? Is the World Fair a sport, with score kept by counting attendance numbers? Is the crew of a fishing boat a sports team?

On a related note:

Someone is trying to swim the English Channel and set a new time record. The only other people with them are the people verifying and recording the attempt. The person runs out of energy, panics, and starts drowning. Should the recorders help them?

A team of rowers is trying to set a new record for crossing the Atlantic. Two days in, they lose their fresh water supply. Should observers give them more?

Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:16 am

Flying Dice wrote:Factories record production levels, does that make a Ford assembly line a sports team?

Nope.

Flying Dice wrote:Is the World Fair a sport, with score kept by counting attendance numbers?

Nope.

Flying Dice wrote:Is the crew of a fishing boat a sports team?

Actually, fishing is a sport. So yes.

**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:20 am

Necro910 wrote:
Flying Dice wrote:Is the crew of a fishing boat a sports team?
Actually, fishing is a sport. So yes.

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Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:30 am

Flying Dice wrote:
Necro910 wrote:
Flying Dice wrote:Is the crew of a fishing boat a sports team?
Actually, fishing is a sport. So yes.

A commercial fishing boat with a quota to make, not Bass Pro Asses or whatever.

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Zangi Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:37 am

Flying Dice wrote:
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*snip*

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**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:38 am

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Andal Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:48 am

Episode was fantastic.

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Kaijyuu Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:57 am

Yeah what Andal said. If something had gone wrong, she would've jumped in to save them, like she did at the best young flier's competition.

Note that "save them" does not mean "save the hurricane," but save somepony from getting hurt.

Zangi Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:01 am

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**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:25 am

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Kaijyuu Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:57 am

Flying Dice wrote:
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Best theory.

**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:04 am

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Silfurdreki Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:23 am

So did anyone else wonder about exactly how much one wingpower was? Even if noone else did wonder that, I made some ~~maths~~ crude estimations!

Large image!

I was contemplating sending it to EqD, but I wanted some input from someone else first.

I think the most shoddy assumption is the Cloudsdale altitude one, it could vary ±1000 meters, at least, which means a lot for the final result. So, what does everyone say? Does it deserve to be spread to the internet at large?

Kaijyuu Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:26 am

Rainbow Dash would be able to punch out Superman.

Sounds about right.

Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:38 am

Kaijyuu wrote:Rainbow Dash would be able to punch out Superman.

Sounds about right.

Correction:

Punch through superman.

Zangi Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:09 pm

Silfurdreki wrote:So did anyone else wonder about exactly how much one wingpower was? Even if noone else did wonder that, I made some ~~maths~~ crude estimations!

Large image!

I was contemplating sending it to EqD, but I wanted some input from someone else first.

I think the most shoddy assumption is the Cloudsdale altitude one, it could vary ±1000 meters, at least, which means a lot for the final result. So, what does everyone say? Does it deserve to be spread to the internet at large?

That is... interesting... try giving alternate possible altitudes of Cloudsdale. Also, I guess that may further cement them being better in the transport business.

.... Ponies must've messed Equestria up something fierce to have to control all of the weather, the seasons, prevent drought and what-not....

Silfurdreki Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:58 pm

Zangi wrote:
That is... interesting... try giving alternate possible altitudes of Cloudsdale. Also, I guess that may further cement them being better in the transport business.

.... Ponies must've messed Equestria up something fierce to have to control all of the weather, the seasons, prevent drought and what-not....

The minimum distance to Cloudsdale I see as really feasible is 1000m, which means that one wingpower becomes 1653 horsepower instead. That's quite a bit less, but still means that a Pegasus (at 10 wingpower) is 1.6 times stronger than the strongest train locomotive on Earth.

Also, note what this means about Equestria's butterflies; Fluttershy (at 0.5, minimum), lost to a single butterfly in a tug-o-war. Yeah, Equestrian butterflies (826 horsepower) are stronger than most of our cars.

What's also interesting is that I just realised that this can be used to (again, crudely) estimate the area of Equestria, or at least the area where ponies control the weather. It is implied by the fact that this is done yearly that the water they send to Cloudsdale is the rainwater for one year. If one assumes an average rainfall of Equestria you could easily compute how large an area it would fall across. I was thinking it'd be reasonable to use the average rainfall of Canada to estimate, since that's where the animators are from. Maybe it'd be better to use the rainfall of some of the more temperate areas of Canada, though.

Anyway, I might do that later today/tonight if I get time.

**Flying Dice** Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:43 pm

Do remember that there won't be an even distribution of rainwater; the badlands around Appleloosa will get much less rain, for example. There is also the question of whether the Everfree counts as Equestrian territory.

Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:02 pm

Flying Dice wrote:Do remember that there won't be an even distribution of rainwater; the badlands around Appleloosa will get much less rain, for example. There is also the question of whether the Everfree counts as Equestrian territory.

For legal reasons, yes. For the purposes of this math, no.

Everfree is part of Equestrian land, but it has its own weather, mainly controlled by unstable magic.

Silfurdreki Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:18 pm

Flying Dice wrote:Do remember that there won't be an even distribution of rainwater; the badlands around Appleloosa will get much less rain, for example. There is also the question of whether the Everfree counts as Equestrian territory.

That's why we're using average rainfall, real life has areas that are dryer as well. We could also use the average rainfall for the whole Earth. In any event, I suspect that Equestria's area will turn out to be tiny, since 1708 m^3 of water is only roughly two millionths of a km^3 and I seem to remember from some lecture I had that Sweden gets roughly 15-20 km^3 of rain every year.

Unless we use the average rainfall for the Atacama desert or something, which is not very reasonable at all.

Necro910 Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:21 pm

Since Equestria is so tiny, I wonder how the other nations fit in. Equestria's rulers control the sun, so it would seem like other nations would submit to an ACTUAL GOD.

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